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by clp
Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:47
Forum: het Nieuwe Forum
Topic: Tiebreak
Replies: 62
Views: 27244

Re: Tiebreak

Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 09:56
In alle toernooien is het belangrijkste het aantal gescoorde punten in het toernooi en dan Sonneborn - Berger.
Als ik het goed begrijp is de volgorde van het toernooi van hoog naar laag:
  1. gescoorde punten
  2. aantal winstpartijen
  3. SB
En niet:
  1. gescoorde punten
  2. SB
by clp
Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:19
Forum: het Nieuwe Forum
Topic: Tiebreak
Replies: 62
Views: 27244

Re: Tiebreak

Punten en SB, dat was in een ver verleden de standaard. Ben je in dit geval niet het aantal winstpartijen vergeten? Voor Damage is dit Pts = 54, aantal winstpartijen = 20, en dan SB = 1589 (Pl = 1). Voor Dragon is dit Pts = 50, aantal winstpartijen = 17, en dan SB = 1398 (Pl = 2). En voor SB is dit ...
by clp
Wed Sep 22, 2021 09:23
Forum: het Nieuwe Forum
Topic: Tiebreak
Replies: 62
Views: 27244

Re: Tiebreak

Hallo Krzysztof, Aangezien ik minder punkers heb dan Dragon. Hier gaat er iets mis met de vertaling. Als je google translate gebruikt, vertaal dan ook terug van Pools naar Nederlands. Dat is een goeie controle. Coś jest nie tak z tłumaczeniem tutaj. Jeśli korzystasz z Google Translate, przetłumacz r...
by clp
Tue Sep 21, 2021 19:41
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021
Replies: 123
Views: 5748

Re: Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021

Hello Sidiki, The tournament is a great achievement of Krzystof and a great opportunity for the development of computer draughts. As you pointed out there are various ways to establish a final ranking. However the official website reads: In Poland, in the town Kórnik will be held from 01.09.2021 to ...
by clp
Tue Sep 21, 2021 19:18
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021
Replies: 123
Views: 5748

Re: Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021

Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:36
EricvanDusseldorp and clp there is no such thing as finishing the game from a given position. Remember about it.
Krzysztof, what is reasonable is real. Remember about it.
by clp
Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:18
Forum: het Nieuwe Forum
Topic: Tiebreak
Replies: 62
Views: 27244

Re: Tiebreak

WK (onofficieel) Computerdammen 2021 (Rapid) x = Michel Grimminck, y = WK (onofficieel) Computerdammen 2021 (Rapid) rElo..... (tpr) relatieve Elo rating (Elo - Ch 3.4) Pev...... Perron eigen vector f-bets.. fair bets Pl Name Cn N + - Pts SB ±W ±%W| Rk tpr| Rk Pev| Rk f-bets|score 1 Damage (Bert Tuy...
by clp
Tue Sep 21, 2021 09:42
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Question about endgame databases
Replies: 10
Views: 270

Re: Question about endgame databases

Unfortunately, I never see this kind of information on tournament sites, also not on ICGA's..., which effectively kind of nullifies my opinion. So, in general, I understand your frustration. Sorry to interrupt this conversation. A first step could be to agree on the components (opening book, endgam...
by clp
Mon Sep 20, 2021 20:01
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021
Replies: 123
Views: 5748

Re: Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021

What do people think, was replaying that game later a fair solution? In ICGA tournaments you are allowed to recover from a crash but here there is no rule for this. What should be the rule? Consider for example the game Ares - Dragon in round 23 . And let's assume the game is being discontinued for...
by clp
Mon Sep 20, 2021 19:35
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021
Replies: 123
Views: 5748

Re: Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021

What to do in case of a crash should be in the tournament regulations ideally. If not the operator handles it to its own discretion (as Krzysztof did). Why not continue the game from the last move ? Starting the game over again is unsatisfactory in my opinion. DGT board does not allow this. Then fo...
by clp
Mon Sep 20, 2021 19:03
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021
Replies: 123
Views: 5748

Re: Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021

What do people think, was replaying that game later a fair solution? In ICGA tournaments you are allowed to recover from a crash but here there is no rule for this. What should be the rule? What to do in case of a crash should be in the tournament regulations ideally. If not the operator handles it...
by clp
Sun Sep 19, 2021 22:31
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021
Replies: 123
Views: 5748

Re: Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021

Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:
Sun Sep 19, 2021 21:41
You must write to the author of the program.
The program is OK. The usage of the program is wrong. Consult an expert.
by clp
Sun Sep 19, 2021 22:19
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021
Replies: 123
Views: 5748

Re: Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021

There is obviously no compelling reason to tie-break. A correct sequence without tie-breaking is: Place No. Program Pts 1-1 4 Damage NNUE 54 2-6 1 Ares NNUE 50 2-6 6 Dragon 50 2-6 10 Kingsrow 50 2-6 14 Scan 50 2-6 15 Sjende Blyn 50 7-7 11 Maximus 48
by clp
Sun Sep 19, 2021 21:18
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021
Replies: 123
Views: 5748

Re: Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021

Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:
Sun Sep 19, 2021 21:14
I'm sorry but I don't really understand your suggestion.
Hello Krzysztof,

DraughtsArbiter Pro program showed you the wrong order. How to correct it?

I am not an expert on DraughtsArbiter Pro, but it must be doable.
by clp
Sun Sep 19, 2021 21:05
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021
Replies: 123
Views: 5748

Re: Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021

This is what the DraughtsArbiter Pro program showed me. Hello Krzysztof, The settings of DraughtsArbiter Pro are inconsistent with the tournament regulations. DraughtsArbiter: score, number of wins, S.B. Your regulations: score, S.B. In my opinion changing the regulations after completions of the t...
by clp
Sun Sep 19, 2021 20:25
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021
Replies: 123
Views: 5748

Re: Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021

Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:
Sun Sep 19, 2021 20:02
Which is wrong again
Hello Krzysztof,
Is it possible to teach me the correct sequence and explain the logic of that sequence?
Help is appreciated.