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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 17:42 
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HAITI
One of big player of HAITI : ANTHONY ALEXANDRE during last panamerican contest

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HANCO and I talked about haitians players a lot of times in FMJD FORUM.

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Raymond St. Fort

This is Raymond St. Fort, likely the strongest player ever from Haiti.
He wrote four checker books, Dam-Karate, Beauty 'n' originality, L'Evolution du Jeu de dames en Haïti and Documents pour l'histoire.

St. Fort was born in Independence City, Haiti in 1932. He lives in the USA since the seventees. He was champion of Haïti and U.S. Titleholder.


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 Post subject: Africans and Chess
PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 18:16 
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Jacques,

There is a lot to be said about the other ethnicities in Africa. Of course, there are Arab Africans (in the Saharan region), Indian Africans (Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, the Seychelles, Mauritius), and White Africans (Zimbabwe, South Africa, Namibia).

Typically when one says "African," they are referring to ethnicity more than a nationality. If someone describes to you, "She's African," you may think of a Black African if you had no other information. Maybe it is different in Europe, but when someone describes to me someone as "European," I personally do not think of someone from Africa even though there are many Africans and Arabs throughout Europe. I believe these are classifications that are widely understood. It is not much different here in America except ethnicity is much more a dominant factor in determining one's identity.

I'm not sure what the case is in draughts, but there was a time when national chess teams in South Africa were represented entirely by white settlers. It was not because there were not strong Black players. South Africa had two federations... the country was later banned from international competitions because of sanctions.

In Mauritius, I did a story on the national team and consisted entirely of Asians and Indians. The team captain (an ethnic Chinese) told me, "Certainly we are African." I believe we may understand the difference. http://www.thechessdrum.net/historicmom ... aug03.html

I don't believe this socio-ethnic debate is very important in terms of this discussion. We are sharing information about players of African descent and there has been no confusion thus far. This thread has certainly gotten me very excited about draughts and many of my site visitors have already made comments about Baba Sy and sent me links including one about Suki King of Barbados.

I'm grateful for this information. It is so inspiring and perhaps this is the kind of information needed to help promote our sports.

Thanks Jacques and Hanco!

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Dominica... ah yes... English-speaking. Thanks for the correction. I suppose I had in mind the French legacy. I know a number of people from Dominica including a professorial colleague. Of course the Dominican Republic on Hispanola is very different from Dominica indeed!

It is really interesting how these board sports have traveled the span of time and how certain regions have taken to them at different levels. I'm still intrigued by the apparent inverse relationship between chess and draughts on certain parts of the globe. Africa is a good example.

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LOUICEUS SHANG WONG is also a good player of HAITI

Photo during Last PANAMERICAN CHAMPIONSHIP. He is on the right.



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Nobody could certify if LSW is better than ANTHONY ALEXANDRE or contrary.

I think they are square.

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Macodou N'Diaye (GMI of Senegal),
winner 5th Barnsteentournament 2004
http://www.damclubunive.nl/barnsteen2004/toernooi.htm


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Jean-Marc Ndjofang, Macodou N'Diaye
and Francis Tholel (master from Surinam),
Barnsteen 2004


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Worldchampion Alexander Georgiev vs
Champion of Africa 2003 Bassirou Ba,
World championship 2003,
Zwartewaterland, May 21st 2003,


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Bassirou Ba - Rob Clerc,
Worldchampionship 2001 Moscow
March 4th 2001


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Bassirou Ba (GMI from Senegal)
Amsterdam, December 1975
Bassirou Ba is the ruling Champion of Africa
since 2003 http://cf.geocities.com/brabel2/AAFRICA ... rticipants


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Ndiaga Samb, The Hague 2002

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Groningen 1996

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IJmuiden 2003, vs Jan Pieter Drost, former champion of Amsterdam

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Champion in IJmuiden 2003

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Champion in Leeuwarden 2003

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Brunssum 2001

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Goes 2002, vs Mark Podolski, champion of Germany

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Delft 2004, vs Kees Thijssen, champion of The Netherlands


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 Post subject: Re: New site BABA SY
PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 19:18 
Hanco Elenbaas wrote:
Jacques PERMAL wrote:
Do you want to know more about BABA SY ?

CLICK HERE :

http://dammeur2.free.fr/Baba%20Sy/preface.htm

Thanks to PATRICK KOPP !!!
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Left under Baba Sy in a show-game with then 10 years old
Harm Wiersma, during Brinta-tournament 1963.


PATRICK KOPP from France, on this picture with white in
winning position against Alexandre Savoya, the champion from Lyon,
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has set up a site in memory of the legendary former
World Champion BABA SY from Senegal.

So far there is hardly any text, but one can already find lots of
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WIEGER WESSELINK-applets with games from BABA SY.


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Piet Roozenburg wrote:
Some facts: on 27 January 1962 Baba Sy put the world record simultaneous games at 150. In the Pulchri studio in The Hague Baba Sy won 112 games, lost 5 with the rest as a draw: an impressive percentage of 85.6 %.



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Baba Sy improving the World record simulplay,
Pulchri Studio The Hague (Den Haag), January 27th 1962

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The Hague, January 27 1962, World record simul Baba Sy

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Baba Sy, Den Haag, January 27th 1962


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Baba Sy lashes out in a simul in Den Haag 1962:

...<font color= #DEE3E7>28-23 32x23 34-30 39x19 33-28 35-30 42-37 38x7 36-31 48-42 44x2 </font>...


<applet code="webdam.Viewer.class"codeBase="http://www.damweb.nl/"height="270"name="webdam"width="340"archive="archive/webdam/Viewer.jar"><param name="position"value="WMWP2728293233343536373839424344474850BP0203060809101213141618192021242526"><param name="notation"value="282319283223214134302534391913243328242235301829423741323807021136312637484237394402"><param name="options" value="bgcolor: D8D3B0;notation:right"></applet>


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http://dammeur2.free.fr/Baba%20Sy/preface.htm

Introducing Patrick KOPP, creator from the Official Website of BABA SY:

Jacques PERMAL wrote:

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PATRICK KOPP is watching a player VS TON SIJBRANDS during SIMULTANEOUS GAMES in COMPIEGNE 2004.



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WEBMASTER PATRICK KOPP playing against TON SIJBRANDS during simultaneous games in COMPIEGNE 2004.



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http://dammeur2.free.fr/Baba%20Sy/preface.htm


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Abdoulaye Der (GMI of Senegal)


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Worldchampion Alexander Georgiev vs
Champion of Africa 2003 Bassirou Ba,
World championship 2003,
Zwartewaterland, May 21st 2003,


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Bassirou Ba - Rob Clerc,
Worldchampionship 2001 Moscow
March 4th 2001


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Bassirou Ba (GMI from Senegal)
Amsterdam, December 1975
Bassirou Ba is the ruling Champion of Africa
since 2003 http://cf.geocities.com/brabel2/AAFRICA ... rticipants


Three times Bassirou Bâ in IJmuiden,
December 2004

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 08:09 
chessdrummer wrote:
Fortunately, your information is highly inaccurate


Most of Hanco's writings are highly inaccurate. He should stick to what he is good at: supplying pictures to this forum.


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Anonymous wrote:
chessdrummer wrote:
Fortunately, your information is highly inaccurate


Most of Hanco's writings are highly inaccurate.


I would like to refer to http://fmjd.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=2595 ... ght=#25955 in which steenslag writes:

steenslag wrote:
Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, geestelijk leider van de Shiiten in Irak (48% bij de verkiezingen) geeft uitleg over wat mag- en wat niet.
Cricket is OK, anale en orale sex ook, mits er geen vloeistoffen in de mond komen, schaken echter niet. Zie http://www.sistani.org/

Tim Krabbé deed aan onderzoeksjournalistiek: http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/chess2/diary.htm , item 275


Not necessary to translate.
The article of Tim Krabbé is in English http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/chess2/diary.htm , item 275


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