3-move ballots - opening 34-29 20-25 29-23

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trictrac
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3-move ballots - opening 34-29 20-25 29-23

Post by trictrac » Wed Aug 22, 2018 20:56

It seems that, with this opening, white has no way to save 24.
after 1. ... 18x29 2. 33x24 19x30 3. 35x24

If it's right, it could be better to remove this opening from the 3-move ballots (all program lose with white on this position : even the better scan3.0, kingsrow, ...).

Members of the forum, what is your opinion ?
- on the lose ?
- on the remove of this opening if the lose is right ?

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Re: 3-move ballots - opening 34-29 20-25 29-23

Post by Sidiki » Wed Aug 22, 2018 23:06

trictrac wrote:It seems that, with this opening, white has no way to save 24.
after 1. ... 18x29 2. 33x24 19x30 3. 35x24

If it's right, it could be better to remove this opening from the 3-move ballots (all program lose with white on this position : even the better scan3.0, kingsrow, ...).

Members of the forum, what is your opinion ?
- on the lose ?
- on the remove of this opening if the lose is right ?
Hi trictrac, you are right. This opening lose absolutely

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Re: 3-move ballots - opening 34-29 20-25 29-23

Post by trictrac » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:43

Thank you, Sidiki,

I will remove this opening from my 3-move ballots file.

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Re: 3-move ballots - opening 34-29 20-25 29-23

Post by Sidiki » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:49

trictrac wrote:Thank you, Sidiki,

I will remove this opening from my 3-move ballots file.
How can we remove it ?

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Re: 3-move ballots - opening 34-29 20-25 29-23

Post by trictrac » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:52

When you want to test the behaviours of two programs on all the 3-move ballots positions, you can put all the starting position in a file.
This file is used by the HMI driving all the matchs (with DXP protocol for example).
So this opening will not be tested.

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Re: 3-move ballots - opening 34-29 20-25 29-23

Post by Sidiki » Thu Aug 23, 2018 15:59

trictrac wrote:When you want to test the behaviours of two programs on all the 3-move ballots positions, you can put all the starting position in a file.
This file is used by the HMI driving all the matchs (with DXP protocol for example).
So this opening will not be tested.
Thank, but can you show how to edit this kind of file or send this file.

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Re: 3-move ballots - opening 34-29 20-25 29-23

Post by Ed Gilbert » Thu Aug 23, 2018 17:18

I agree that this opening looks like a loss. I will remove it from kingsrow's 3-move engine match list.

-- Ed

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Re: 3-move ballots - opening 34-29 20-25 29-23

Post by Sidiki » Thu Aug 23, 2018 21:08

Ed Gilbert wrote:I agree that this opening looks like a loss. I will remove it from kingsrow's 3-move engine match list.

-- Ed
Thank again Ed !!!!

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