dragon 4.5

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Luzimar
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Re: dragon 4.5

Post by Luzimar » Mon Oct 02, 2017 18:09

Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:Luzimar this way I am thinking where from you have 394 files. I have 374 files. For accuracy folder MTC has 138 files a folder WLD has 236 files. Whether at you this way he is also.You gave all the content of the program. Now I just understood.
Hi Krzysztof Grzelak here are the folder for you to make a comparison I do not know if my folder has more files or your have less would be good to know Thank you Luzimar

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Re: dragon 4.5

Post by Luzimar » Mon Oct 02, 2017 18:09

Luzimar wrote:
Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:Luzimar this way I am thinking where from you have 394 files. I have 374 files. For accuracy folder MTC has 138 files a folder WLD has 236 files. Whether at you this way he is also.You gave all the content of the program. Now I just understood.
Hi Krzysztof Grzelak here are the folder for you to make a comparison I do not know if my folder has more files or your have less would be good to know Thank you Luzimar
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Hi Krzysztof Grzelak here are the folder for you to make a comparison I do not know if my folder has more files or your have less would be good to know Thank you Luzimar
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Re: dragon 4.5

Post by Luzimar » Sat Dec 02, 2017 18:12

Luzimar wrote:
MichelG wrote:Hi Luzimar,

This is actually a very hard position. While the position is a win for black, it takes 30 moves to actually win it. The program would have to search 59 ply to find the actual moves.

The last move black played (7-1) was the optimal move, i am not sure it is unable to win.

The only sure way to find the path to the win is to generate the 7 piece distance-to-win databases. However this takes a long time and with 1.5 TB, it takes a lot of diskspace.

I have these databases, but there is not way to upload them.

Michel
Hi Michel Ed has created 2 bases of mtc finals and a total wdl of 90 gigs and loaded into the mega in several parts and now the kingsrow kills any end of 8 thanks for your grateful reply
hi Michel I tried to generate the bases of dragon with 32 gig of ram 4 tera of hd system windows 10 i7 processor and gave a fatal error

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Re: dragon 4.5

Post by Luzimar » Sat Dec 02, 2017 18:13

Luzimar wrote:
Luzimar wrote:
MichelG wrote:Hi Luzimar,

This is actually a very hard position. While the position is a win for black, it takes 30 moves to actually win it. The program would have to search 59 ply to find the actual moves.

The last move black played (7-1) was the optimal move, i am not sure it is unable to win.

The only sure way to find the path to the win is to generate the 7 piece distance-to-win databases. However this takes a long time and with 1.5 TB, it takes a lot of diskspace.

I have these databases, but there is not way to upload them.

Michel
Hi Michel Ed has created 2 bases of mtc finals and a total wdl of 90 gigs and loaded into the mega in several parts and now the kingsrow kills any end of 8 thanks for your grateful reply
hi Michel I tried to generate the bases of dragon with 32 gig of ram 4 tera of hd system windows 10 i7 processor and gave a fatal error
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Re: dragon 4.5

Post by Luzimar » Sat Dec 02, 2017 18:15

Luzimar wrote:
Luzimar wrote:
Luzimar wrote: Hi Michel Ed has created 2 bases of mtc finals and a total wdl of 90 gigs and loaded into the mega in several parts and now the kingsrow kills any end of 8 thanks for your grateful reply
hi Michel I tried to generate the bases of dragon with 32 gig of ram 4 tera of hd system windows 10 i7 processor and gave a fatal error

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Re: dragon 4.5

Post by MichelG » Sun Dec 03, 2017 19:50

Luzimar wrote:hi Michel I tried to generate the bases of dragon with 32 gig of ram 4 tera of hd system windows 10 i7 processor and gave a fatal error
Generally after out of memory condition, you can just restart and it will continue where it left of. However, if that doesn't help it along, you probably need to assign more virtual memory in windows.

I generated the 8 piece databases on a 24 GB computer, with i think 48 Gb virtual memory and i had to restart it several times.

Michel

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Re: dragon 4.5

Post by Luzimar » Tue Dec 05, 2017 02:41

MichelG wrote:
Luzimar wrote:hi Michel I tried to generate the bases of dragon with 32 gig of ram 4 tera of hd system windows 10 i7 processor and gave a fatal error
Generally after out of memory condition, you can just restart and it will continue where it left of. However, if that doesn't help it along, you probably need to assign more virtual memory in windows.

I generated the 8 piece databases on a 24 GB computer, with i think 48 Gb virtual memory and i had to restart it several times.

Michel
Hi Michel, I did what you recommended and now everything is going great. Thank you Luzima Araujo

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Re: dragon 4.5

Post by Krzysztof Grzelak » Fri Dec 15, 2017 09:53

Hi Luzima Araujo.

Do you still generate the base ends to Dragon.

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Re: dragon 4.5

Post by Luzimar » Fri Dec 15, 2017 16:09

Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:Hi Luzima Araujo.

Do you still generate the base ends to Dragon.
hi Krzysztof Grzelak yes I'm still generating the bases of dragon finals

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Re: dragon 4.5

Post by Krzysztof Grzelak » Fri Dec 15, 2017 17:37

Luzimar wrote:
Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:Hi Luzima Araujo.

Do you still generate the base ends to Dragon.
hi Krzysztof Grzelak yes I'm still generating the bases of dragon finals
Thank you for your answer Luzima.

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Re: dragon 4.5

Post by Krzysztof Grzelak » Mon Apr 09, 2018 14:55

Hi Michel.

I have a question for you. Please write whether Dragon uses the option like " large pages ".

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Re: dragon 4.5

Post by Krzysztof Grzelak » Thu Aug 23, 2018 16:13

Hi Luzima Araujo.

I have a question for you. Please, write or generate a database of endings for the Dragon program.

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Re: dragon 4.5

Post by Luzimar » Thu Aug 23, 2018 23:20

Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:Hi Luzima Araujo.

I have a question for you. Please, write or generate a database of endings for the Dragon program.
hi Krzysztof Grzelak I am creating the bases is still with 611 gb

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Re: dragon 4.5

Post by Luzimar » Thu Aug 23, 2018 23:22

Luzimar wrote:
Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:Hi Luzima Araujo.

I have a question for you. Please, write or generate a database of endings for the Dragon program.
hi Krzysztof Grzelak I am creating the bases is still with 611 gb
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Re: dragon 4.5

Post by Sidiki » Fri Aug 24, 2018 04:47

Luzimar wrote:
Luzimar wrote:
Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:Hi Luzima Araujo.

I have a question for you. Please, write or generate a database of endings for the Dragon program.
hi Krzysztof Grzelak I am creating the bases is still with 611 gb
Very great job Luzimar. There's an effect on the strenght please?

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