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by Ed Gilbert
Mon Jan 13, 2020 17:15
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Programmer poll: TCEC-like competition for draughts engines
Replies: 13
Views: 1008

Re: Programmer poll: TCEC-like competition for draughts engines

Bert, thanks, good to hear that you have made some progress with hub in damage and also with a tournament manager. I think the protocol has changed in the newer version of hub so you may need to update your TM at some point before it can run kingsrow and scan 3.1, and hopefully a damage version with...
by Ed Gilbert
Mon Jan 13, 2020 13:01
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Programmer poll: TCEC-like competition for draughts engines
Replies: 13
Views: 1008

Re: Programmer poll: TCEC-like competition for draughts engines

I am working on a version of kingsrow that uses the hub interface, and I expect to have a completely functional prototype soon. Is anyone else working to adapt their engine to hub, or working on (or at least thinking about) a hub tournament manager? I am trying to run hub 2.1 with scan 3.1 but so fa...
by Ed Gilbert
Tue Oct 22, 2019 17:48
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Internet engine matches
Replies: 447
Views: 143063

Re: Internet engine matches

I am doing a two-day test on Kingsrow - Scan on separate computers. I write only in Polish. This time the match ended in a draw. No program has lost or won. This only shows that 158 games is not nearly enough to learn which program is stronger when the programs are not very far apart. Thousands of ...
by Ed Gilbert
Sat Oct 12, 2019 22:06
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Internet engine matches
Replies: 447
Views: 143063

Re: Internet engine matches

As it turns out this is not as simple as running on a single computer, for Krzysztof. Running fair matches on a single computer never seemed a problem before in computer chess (see TCEC) and computer draughts. What do other programmers think about this? I've been running matches on a single compute...
by Ed Gilbert
Thu Oct 10, 2019 23:31
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Internet engine matches
Replies: 447
Views: 143063

Re: Internet engine matches

Unfortunately, the programs cannot be seen.
You don't need internet, just the router. Did you do the port forwarding?
by Ed Gilbert
Sun Oct 06, 2019 18:12
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Internet engine matches
Replies: 447
Views: 143063

Re: Internet engine matches

Krzysztof's machine has 16 cores/32 threads, IIRC. So theoretically 16 + 8 = 24 threads is possible. However, a hyper-thread is not the same as a real thread (core), so when pondering is used there can still be interference. 24 threads are always possible of course, even on a single-core machine, b...
by Ed Gilbert
Sat Oct 05, 2019 15:57
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Internet engine matches
Replies: 447
Views: 143063

Re: Internet engine matches

I just tested it here. I will describe how to set it up. 1) Find the IP address of the computer that will be running the DXP Follower program. One way to do this is to open up a command prompt on the Follower computer and type ipconfig Look for the IPv4 address under your active connection. 2) Open ...
by Ed Gilbert
Sat Oct 05, 2019 14:58
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Internet engine matches
Replies: 447
Views: 143063

Re: Internet engine matches

I don't know Ed how it's done. I have never done this before. It is basically the same as when running on one computer, except that the Initiator gives the IP address of the Follower computer instead of the loopback address 127.0.0.1. It is also necessary to tell your router to forward the DXP port...
by Ed Gilbert
Sat Oct 05, 2019 14:37
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Internet engine matches
Replies: 447
Views: 143063

Re: Internet engine matches

I think the problem during tournaments is not. Tournaments are played on two separate computers. Pondering doesn't matter.
In that case, you can do the same with DXP, use two separate computers. DXP uses LAN, it does not require the programs to be on the same computer.
by Ed Gilbert
Sat Oct 05, 2019 14:25
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Internet engine matches
Replies: 447
Views: 143063

Re: Internet engine matches

I think Jelle should be able to give you a way to turn pondering off. This is not just a problem for DXP matches. It is a problem in any of your tournaments.
by Ed Gilbert
Sat Oct 05, 2019 13:28
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Internet engine matches
Replies: 447
Views: 143063

Re: Internet engine matches

Krzysztof, thank you for running the match. I would like to point out what looks like a problem with your match configuration. You have sjende blyn set to use 16 search threads and pondering on, and kingsrow to use 8 search threads and pondering on. That means that both program are searching at the ...
by Ed Gilbert
Fri Oct 04, 2019 14:01
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Kingsrow - question
Replies: 13
Views: 1004

Re: Kingsrow - question

Jan Jaap and Ed - thank you very much. Ed, I'm answering your question. Sjende Blyn has Initiator. I know everything now, I am testing Your program and Maximus with the program Sjende Blyn.
Krzysztof, can you report some results?
by Ed Gilbert
Fri Oct 04, 2019 13:56
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Kingsrow - question
Replies: 13
Views: 1004

Re: Kingsrow - question

as initiator, Dam 2.2 need to save the game manually by human operator.
This is incorrect. Dam2.2 plays DXP without any manual operator intervention between games, either as Initiator or as Follower.
by Ed Gilbert
Sun Sep 29, 2019 17:26
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Kingsrow - question
Replies: 13
Views: 1004

Re: Kingsrow - question

Krzysztof, just to be perfectly clear, please write which program is Initiator, kingsrow or sjende blyn?
by Ed Gilbert
Sun Sep 29, 2019 17:06
Forum: Draughts, Computer, Internet
Topic: Kingsrow - question
Replies: 13
Views: 1004

Re: Kingsrow - question

I think I understand Krzysztof's questions now, as he has sent me a few emails just now to try to get it to work. Krzysztof is trying to set up an engine match between kingsrow and sjende blyn, using kingsrow as initiator, but he is having difficulty because sjende blyn seems to require some human i...